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canuckchat
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 6:47 AM
ditto if you take "stress leave" from a job ... you will be uninsurable for a period of approximately 2 years (if not longer) ....apparently "suck it up buttercup!" is the mandate out there these days....

sunshine - vitamin D - Evening primrose oil for the ladies in the audience - good old "comfort foods" ... these are but a few things that may / may not help ... perhaps....


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lokijeep
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 11:13 AM
Unfortunately I didn't think of that when I let my doctor prescribe me antidepressants last year :( I regret now big time, especially since they didn't work; they made it worse.

Now I take vitamin E and St. John's wort. It's been just over a month but so far so good! I wish I did this last year...



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art-in-the-making
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 11:33 AM
I think there should be something like a CRTC for the insurance industry.

every time I have a conversation with my broker it goes something like this

Me: "that doesn't make any sense - it's ridiculous"

Broker: "I know it's a scam but there's no way around it"


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s.brake
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 11:55 AM
Increased suicial ideation is a risk with SSRI's and SNRI's. This risk is largely associated with young adults and antidepressants are rarely given to people under eighteen.
The greatest risk for suicide occurs when individuals are going into/coming out of a depressive state. Under the right conditions antidepressants can prevent suicide. I don't think it is reasonable to deny individuals insurance for using these medications. It is punishing people for acting in their best interests. To the best of my knowledge, insurance companies do not cover suicide for the first two years of the policy.
Too many GP's are handing out antidepressants. Anyone in real need of an antidepressant should be consulting a shrink such that there mood is monitored on a regular basis. JMPO.
Susan
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nicki9912
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 11:57 AM
AIG assurance, now owned by BMO asks nothing of you, no medical exam, they don't ask if you're a smoker, nothing.



Link

I've chosen the 20.00 per month Guaranteed Coverage Life Plus plan




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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 12:07 PM
have you read through all the fine print inn the contract, nicki? pre-existing conditions and other little minefields.

Designed by opticians & lawyers to increase business. I've never made it all the way reading to the end of one of those things. Credit card contracts, insurance, etc. Eyes glaze over and I begin dreaming of US military deserters claiming refugee status in Canada, or gun registrys, or.....................
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lokijeep
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 12:16 PM
Nicki, they don't ask you anything up front, but when you try to collect you'll find you're disqualified...

I saw a CBC docu about that very company and some cases of people that were disqualified after their loved one died. :(

It was very sad to see.



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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 12:29 PM
WHAT ?????




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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 12:31 PM
This company was the only thing that went right after Rolly passed away.

Not only did they pay for her cremation et al, but they reimbursed her last payment




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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 12:34 PM
Michael Moore's documentary "Sicko" is an eye opener as to how these outfits operate - at least south of the border.
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lokijeep
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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 1:30 PM
The CBC documentary showed how easy it is to sign up but when it came down to collecting even something like high blood pressure meds were enough to disqualify.

They had a visual- they had 20 couples dancing on a dancefloor, all of whom believed they were set as far as their life insurance policies were concerned.

They went through the most common reason for disqualification, and in the end there were just 2 or 3 couples left.

This was a few years ago now. I think the basics were covered, like cremation etc but they didn't get near the full 'payout', for instance if you have a million dollar policy, you won't actually get a million dollars.



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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 1:52 PM
testing 3-2-1

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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 1:55 PM
The term 'pre-existing condition ' can be accompanied by a lot of interpretive baggage. Loopholes are not generally weighted in the clients' favour.

That 'small print' that you have signed opens up many evasive back doors for them. You may not have been asked about particular conditions or issues, but there are many ways around that -- one being 'did you ever seek medical attention for this, that , or the other condition' which opens up the door to 'pre-existing conditions' even if you were not ill or diagnosed with anything way back when. Something as obscure as 'seek attention for a nervous condition or dizziness or heart palpitations' (even if you ended up only having indigestion) etc may come back to bite your butt years later if it eventually comes to light you do have a medical condition that you had no prior knowledge of.

You've also signed a waiver saying your medical records are up for perusal by the insurance company, so they can check back on those previous symptoms and now label them as 'pre-existing' that you didn't disclose.

On the other hand, I can vouch for the integrity of one company, London Life, for going the extra mile for a client and paying a large death benefit even though no premiums had been paid yet, and the policy was not even yet filed yet. They could have used any number of loopholes to avoid having to pay the settlement, but they came through without any question or scarlet tape.

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Re: Anti depressants

21-Nov-2009 2:00 PM
Nicki, I feel Rolly's circumstances couldn't be considered 'pre-existing' as Almond points out. If memory serves it was something along the lines of if you die of a heart ailment and you've been prescribed any sort of heart meds, they may consider that pre-existing.

I know that diabetes was a complicated one. If one is diagnosed with that there's almost anything an insurance company can find as a back door to not having to pay upon death.



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